Contend Earnestly: Lordship Salvation

Saturday, November 11, 2006

Lordship Salvation

I took this from Pulpit Magazine and thought it added to our thoughts on child salvation, because isn't this really what we are asking when a child asks, "daddy, I want to ask Jesus into my heart!" Aren't we asking, "do they really understand Lordship, do they really understand how to live for God?" So I am posting this excerpt from a post on Pulpit Magazine, if you want to read the whole thing click here

The lordship position teaches that salvation occurs at the moment of conversion, and that conversion includes a change of heart such that those who were enemies of Christ now love Him.
That’s pretty much it.
Lordship teaches that true Christians love Jesus. And that those who do not love Jesus are not true Christians.
After all, Jesus said, “If God were your Father, you would love Me” (John 8:42). Paul said that anyone who does not love Jesus is accursed (1 Cor. 16:22). And Peter described the belief of his readers in these terms: “Though you have not seen Him, you love Him” (1 Pet. 1:8).
And what does love for Christ look like?
He Himself tells us in John 14:15—“If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.” That is pretty straightforward: Love for Christ is a willingness to keep His commands.
The Free Grace camp attempts to keep salvation and conversion separate, such that a sinner can become a child of God and yet continue in hatred and unrepentant rebellion against God. We find this wholly unacceptable. It is not only illogical, it is also unbiblical. In salvation, the sinner is rescued not only from the consequences of his sin (in the life to come), but also from his slavery to sin (in this life—Rom. 6, 8:1-13). Those who claim to have been saved, yet remain slaves to sin, are deceiving themselves (1 John 1:5; cf. James 2:19).
Lou Martuneac’s position agrees with lordship that conversion and salvation are inseparable. Yet, Lou attempts to remove love for Christ from the change of heart that conversion necessarily entails. Since love for Christ is, by Christ’s own definition, a willingness to obey—then Lou is forced to promote a loveless, affectionless, devotionless conversion. Biblically this is impossible. But Lou has no other choice. The moment he admits that love for Christ is included in conversion, the debate is over. To concede that point is to agree with the lordship position.
Does this mean that new believers fully understand all that love for Christ entails at the moment of salvation? No, of course not. As John MacArthur wrote in chapter 12 of The Gospel According to Jesus:
Obviously, a new believer does not fully understand all the ramifications of Jesus’ lordship at the moment of conversion. But every genuine believer has a desire to surrender. This is what distinguishes true faith from a bogus profession: true faith produces a heart that is humble, submissive, and obedient. As spiritual understanding unfolds, that obedience grows deeper, and the genuine believer displays an eagerness to please Christ by abandoning everything to his lordship. This willingness to surrender to divine authority is a driving force in the heart of every true child of the kingdom. It is the inevitable expression of the new nature.

2 comments:

Lou Martuneac said...

I had to respopnd to the article you posted.

From Nathan's article,
"Lou Martuneac’s position agrees with lordship that conversion and salvation are inseparable. Yet, Lou attempts to remove love for Christ from the change of heart that conversion necessarily entails. Since love for Christ is, by Christ’s own definition, a willingness to obey—then Lou is forced to promote a loveless, affectionless, devotionless conversion."

This is a complete fabrication of a position I do not espouse or would ever sign on to. This position he ascribes to me cannot be found in my book or in any comment I have written.

In my debates with Nathan he repeatedly attempted to avoid distinguishing the requirements for salvation from the results of salvation. In his note above he blurs the distinction again.

For the reception of eternal life LS demands a commitment from man to live in obedience to the Lord's commands. A decision that is impossible for a lost man to make or keep. That is a man-centered gospel, and therefore, a false gospel.

A saved man should love Chrtist and desire to keep His commands.

Salvation, however, in never conditioned on the upfront promise to surrender, follow and take up the cross, which LS demands.

LM

Seth McBee said...

You have just thrown out 1 John and also what the definition of "repentance" is and also to confess Christ as Lord in Romans 10. If I were to submit myself to a king as a servant the expectation would be that I would do what he commands, just as we are to do with Christ.

Thanks for your comment and appreciate the visit...

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