tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post2149339938417676130..comments2023-10-25T02:18:43.690-07:00Comments on Contend Earnestly: Derek Webb Uses "Vulgarity" With His Eyes ClosedSeth McBeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-11112573190203657202009-10-29T14:43:05.309-07:002009-10-29T14:43:05.309-07:00I just saw Derek last night, and the "shit&qu...I just saw Derek last night, and the "shit" word was so natural and seamless in public. It fit perfectly in the song. He didn't bring it up as if it was something unusual or out of place, and I don't think it is. <br /><br />Also, the song isn't about vulgarity, the song is about hating homosexuals, and how people give all there attention and time to addressing homosexuals, meanwhile, not giving a shit about starvation, and social injustices around the world. <br /><br />The point isn't the cuss word at all.ricshewellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13114025538014232323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-43651906592858993362009-10-27T09:07:49.015-07:002009-10-27T09:07:49.015-07:00Thanks to everyone who commented, and I would als...Thanks to everyone who commented, and I would also say that if you want to read more of my actual insight to language read here: <br /><br /><a href="http://contendearnestly.blogspot.com/search/label/Language" rel="nofollow">Language</a><br /><br />I agree more than you might think in regards to Webb, but am worried about implications of using words, for the sake of words...when speaking in a public forum. <br /><br />And this doesn't mean that I didn't <i>get</i> or <i>understand</i> his message. Nor does this mean I don't care for people that are sick and dying.Seth McBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-54164735658802518852009-10-25T23:31:40.342-07:002009-10-25T23:31:40.342-07:00http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=philip...http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=philippians%203:8&version=KJV<br /><br />The Greek word (skadron) is stronger than dung, by the way. It was considered a profanity, and was certainly used to gain attention.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11780096086034089243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-77761142154888254032009-10-24T18:55:13.499-07:002009-10-24T18:55:13.499-07:00I understand that those words can be offensive, bu...I understand that those words can be offensive, but at the same time, I think he makes a good point with his usage. I don't think that he's just inserting these words to seem younger or more relevant, but I think that there's a reason that he decided to use those words. I know a lot of people who would call themselves Christ-followers, yet aren't open at all to relating to gay people, and don't even give them a chance to show that they are real people. Obviously Derek is upset about this, and I also think that 'damn' in this context has a double-meaning.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16717334989083543250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-24835177695267199072009-10-22T21:46:26.569-07:002009-10-22T21:46:26.569-07:00It blows my mind that people get bent out of shape...It blows my mind that people get bent out of shape over a word like "shit". Are we still ten years old? Debating about Webb's usage of the word from an artistic standpoint is one thing, but the fact that it is so controversial is ridiculous.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11390941932145892778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-54710535905372508052009-10-21T14:11:03.435-07:002009-10-21T14:11:03.435-07:00Kristellys.
I am not going to debate over the sub...Kristellys.<br /><br />I am not going to debate over the subject, as I have already written much on this subject. You can read those <a href="http://contendearnestly.blogspot.com/search/label/Language" rel="nofollow">here</a>. <br /><br />But, know that just because people are dying and some decide to speak and tackle issues in orthodoxy and orthopraxy, doesn't make those debaters sinful or uncaring. <br /><br />Know that some of us like to help those that are dying physically as well as those who are dead spiritually. <br /><br />Thanks for the stopping by.Seth McBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-70025582675218607822009-10-21T13:42:10.863-07:002009-10-21T13:42:10.863-07:00do we really care more about a person saying "...do we really care more about a person saying "shit" than thousands of people dying a day from preventable issues? is this what is worth debating over?<br /><br />derek made a point. only people concerned more with "individual morality" care about this issue than the actual moral issue of us sitting idly while so much crap is going on. :)<br /><br />peace.<br />kKristellyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01211668916454441815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-83204744322162882432009-10-21T00:17:36.976-07:002009-10-21T00:17:36.976-07:00About the language:
It's not a thing that he ...About the language:<br /><br />It's not a thing that he uses to look "cool" or that he is doing just because it will be heard publicly, but it is an expletive used to make a strong point. Seriously...who cares? I wouldn't be worried so much about the public caring about swearing as the do about us drinking...even tho there is nothing wrong with it. Get a clue.Kaleidoscope Truthshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02457512205982951066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-38062062232048049452009-10-19T15:14:50.959-07:002009-10-19T15:14:50.959-07:00The first thing that comes to my mind is that he l...The first thing that comes to my mind is that he looks like a bobblehead in the video (Derek 'Bobblehead' Webb).<br /><br />I have more to say, but I am going to hold my tongue...except to say that it really is not that good of a song. The artistry is lacking. Anybody can put a track like that together.<br /><br />btw- I have most of his cd's.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16151881596014238336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-87435380642859132342009-10-19T15:02:20.251-07:002009-10-19T15:02:20.251-07:00Yeah...I get that. I actually like the production ...Yeah...I get that. I actually like the production of the song itself.Seth McBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-87697426590404909052009-10-19T14:26:01.918-07:002009-10-19T14:26:01.918-07:00So I think Webb is being reckless with the words h...So I think Webb is being reckless with the words he sings in this case.<br /><br />You strip everything away, and he doesn't show anything... just sort of begs a question. That's lame.<br /><br />As far as the swearing; It comes across as forced from my perspective, just like any other time I hear Christians making a point to swear in a public situation where they know they'll be noticed. <br /><br />"Hey kids! I'm "hip". I'm "with it". So let's sit down and "rap" about our lives, eh?"Jonspachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10667753736245336853noreply@blogger.com