tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post116300291305175707..comments2023-10-25T02:18:43.690-07:00Comments on Contend Earnestly: RemembranceSeth McBeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-1163198477845591162006-11-10T14:41:00.000-08:002006-11-10T14:41:00.000-08:00This has been a great discussion in the past and o...This has been a great discussion in the past and one that I have mixed thoughts on. I come from the Southern Baptist train of thought where if you came forward and prayed you were saved for the rest of your life and not only did parents hang on to that prayer for their kids but the children that actually prayed that as well would hang on to that confession as well, no matter how they lived their life. <BR/><BR/>That is one extreme (which I don't adhere to) the other is making sure so much of your child's fruits that you almost hold them to a higher standard than a pharisee did and they could be in their mid to late teens before you finally say that you believe your child is saved. Two extremes, so what is the answer? I have no idea! But, if my child at the age of 6 or 7 believes in Christ I definitely will not be the one to turn them away. Would I continue to train them and admonish and exhort where necessary? Of course. But I have a hard time turning them away from partaking of baptizm and the Lord's Supper if I feel they know what they are confessing. Will they still mess up, will they still sin, will all their attitudes change immediately? Do any new Christians quit sinning cold turkey? No, but the call for the parent and for a spiritual man is to aid that new convert into understanding daily what it means to love God and hate sin. This is something that I have been giving a lot of thought to because of my son turning 4 this next year, not that I think he understands but as time goes on I always ask myself how I will interact with him when he does come to me and say, "Daddy, I want to go to heaven where Christ is" At that point I drop everything and aid him in understanding the depths of that question. <BR/><BR/>And yes, I believe in Lordship salvation. That means something different to a 6 year old and a 60 year old though but I believe both can start to show fruit immediately.Seth McBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-1163196110726757262006-11-10T14:01:00.000-08:002006-11-10T14:01:00.000-08:00I know this is an issue that Tony and I have talke...I know this is an issue that Tony and I have talked about off line quite a bit. It is tough to know when it is appropriate to accept a child's profession of faith. Here are a couple of seemingly unconnected thoughts on the question posed:<BR/><BR/>I believe that the Lord can use the child's feeling of exclusion from these sacred acts as a symbol for their separation from Him, spiritually. I don't believe this is a bad thing. That is one aspect I admire about the Brethren church (wide brush stroke, I realize). They take very careful measures to make sure that those who participate are truly saved, as best as man can evaluate. This protects not only their responsibility as leaders to oversee the church, but also the potential non-believer from storing up even more wrath for taking the Supper in an unworthy manner. 1 Cor 11 is a sobering passage of how serious the Lord views this institution; that He would discipline His own to death when the Table has been violated. I can only imagine the wrath He feels if someone who is unconverted takes part.<BR/><BR/>The other thought was that I would fear, personally, the lack of ability to communicate the seriousness of the moment in a home setting with small children. I'm not suggesting it should not be done, or that it cannot be done (if in fact you deem their professions to be genuine).<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I believe that if someone is deemed worthy to take of the cup, then they are worthy to be baptized. I would even say it stronger that I don't believe they should take of the cup if the are not baptized - as they are living in sin by disobeying the ordinance of baptism.<BR/><BR/>All that to say, I am not directing all of these comments at your specific family, Tony. Just some thoughts as we wrestle with this issue.Justin Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09611923953052100285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27391906.post-1163014584149726582006-11-08T11:36:00.000-08:002006-11-08T11:36:00.000-08:00Good thoughts. I have thought about htis in the p...Good thoughts. I have thought about htis in the past as well. To actually have communion between Stacy and I, but I have never thought of doing this with the kids, of course, mine wouldn't understand at all because they are so young. I think to remember the Saviour is always good, just be careful that the kids know the difference between what you would be doing and actual communion. I would find another way to go being that it is so close to what the Lord's Supper symbolizes. Maybe you and Susan share in the communion and teach your kids what the importance is. The only drawback I could see is that kids, by nature, always want to be included, and therefore could "repent" to be included in the family communion time. I like the idea of remembering and I even like the idea of having the Lord's Supper with believers not only in church but at other times as well. Just read your children, which you have shown you can do, and know when they seem to start incline an ear to Christ just to be included. <BR/><BR/>Great thoughts!Seth McBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765679934165890595noreply@blogger.com